cause(union): overproduced, corporate cookie cutter,lifeless sound
effect(indie): unprofessional attempts at capturing passion and freshness and 'not-yet-created-ness' that sound unprofessional(purposefully redundant)
what we are wanting is the spontaneous, heartfelt,passionate sound of the indies
AND the professional, polished sound of the unions.
in reaction to all this i think we should ALL GET TOGETHER and start a new movement and call it 'the undies'.
(this is only meant to be a joke and no one should by any means actually try to start a new movement and call it 'the undies'. to do so would bring humiliation upon the entire music industry as a whole and add more fuel to an already ridiculously overheated flame. (my sentiments to both sides of the argument that are getting burned))
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For those of you who didn't make the first meeting and want to make this one but not sure if you want to play, its ok. There will be some people come to watch, learn and just hang out. If you have someone in your family who is a drummer I encourage you to bring them as well. There will be drinks and snacks there for everyone. We should have enough kits, If your wanting to bring your kit or something please let me know so i can plan for it.
I have to leave Tuesday and spend around 5 to 7 days on a tour bus in FL so if you need something feel free to call me up. I will call you back if i miss the call. email me i will give you my cell, or call the church for any questions.
see you guys!!! here is the old email i sent out one more time!!! see ya there, bring your sticks!!!!
I have scheduled the next meeting for May 22 @ 6PM. It is a Thursday night, so alot of you who work weekend dates, house gig and such can hopefully make it. We had a blast last time, and this time should even be better. We will have drinks, and snacks for everyone. This meeting will go much like the last one. we will have a few kits on stage, you can play with the band, solo, or play a drum duet kinda trading fours thing. If you want to just watch and get to know everyone thats fine to. We just want you there. We will also have a short video played that you will enjoy i am sure. none the less we will be meeting again, playing drums, hanging out, talking about some Jesus, fellowshipping, and having a great time!!! I hope some of the industry players can come out. It would be great for you guys to come out and hang with us, talk drums and let us pick your brains lol.. If your coming let me know, also if you would like to bring your kit i need to know. i don't want us to have to many kits, so let me know. thanks again and I cant wait to see you all again and meet some new drummers. Bring your friends as well. no matter your skill level come out, you might teach someone something and even the pros can learn something every now and then.
I hope to hear and see you all soon.
thanks!!!!
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Lascassas Baptist Church
4750 east Jefferson pike
Lascassas, TN 37085
615-890-1858
Lamentations 3:25
25 The LORD is good to those whose hope is in him,
to the one who seeks him;
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Jeremy Warren
Director for Murfreesboro/Nashville area
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Also... If you are big in Europe, does that mean anything? (Just kidding)
My friend and I were debating about who sold more albums lifetime...
Billy Joel, or the Doors?
The doors seem far more legendary than Billy Joel... don't they?
But...Billy Joel had over a dozen albums and had radio hit after radio hit.
The Doors were legendary but only had 5 studio albums and a handful of hits.
So who sold more albums? Which one was more legendary?
Who actually made more money and had better numbers?
Also, Is music Regional? Did people in the south care about Billy Joel and/or the Doors, or were they more concerned country music at that time?
How about today, do radio stations in the south play as much Killers and Jack Johnson and Ryan Adams as Radio Stations in LA or NY?
Also, if you live in NYC, giant city made of concrete, a million people per square mile with creeps everywhere... and you have a toddler, where do you take him to play? (Just kidding again)
Sorry for the randomness... I've had a few too many beers.
I was trying to be funny, but I seriously do wonder. If you can help me answer these questions, I'd much appreciate it.
I dare anyone to listen to a bunch of recordings and tell which are union and which aren't. Maybe you've come across some bad union guys, but I believe that can be said for any musician. Just because we like to talk about the fee up front doesn't mean that we don't have any passion in the studio. I want people to hire me because I'm good, not because I'm a "professional".
True, the business model is changing, but then, it's never stopped changing. There are more people trying to make a living as a musician, and less opportunity for musicians to earn a good living.
But the union, through the hard work of some talented and very intelligent local musicians is, with the support of it's own membership, also learning how to navigate the 21st century.
The union is NOT for everyone. Hobbyist will rarely get much personal benefit. But in the end, it's the members who make the union what it is. The union is not home to ALL the best players ... just MOST of them ... and there's a lot of good reasons, still, for that FACT!!
And as a proud member of the union of musicians, I will do something I rarely ever do on CL. I shall sign off with my name.
First of all, I recorded the entire thing in a living room studio on a tascam 388 that I bought with proceeds from a radio commercial I did on a fostex X15 cassette 4 track and a dx7.
The money I raised was by cold calling businesses of chamber of commerce members nation wide and getting small town businesses to buy large quantities of my tapes as christmas presents for their employees. I sold the tapes at $15 a set for two and gave $7.50 to Red Cross to distribute, kept the rest for myself and the few others that helped me. 50% is not a bad payout for the Red Cross that never had to lift a finger is it? It beats the 50% of profits that most give because I ate the production and manufacturing costs. How Red Cross spent the 7.5 million they got was not up to me but I would ask you when the last time YOU donated 7.5 million to anyone?
"Wow, so anti-union here. All the union does is process my paperwork, maybe go after a deadbeat producer if they don't pay (which only happened to me BEFORE I was union). That's it. Where are the people on CL who know that you need a good studio with a good engineer with good musicians to get a good recording? If you think $100 is unreasonable to pay someone, what is fair to you folks? After all, if I worked on the project mentioned, the one that made you a small fortune for a measly $30, I'm sure we can all agree that I'd have been ripped off."
The musicians I had got paid enough they were very happy. I never said how much I paid them, I only said that I don't like union and don't need them to do my bidding because I know I'm good enough. If you had to work for a deadbeat producer, you were on the low end of the smarts department. You need some normal education to know how to do business. I was pretty young when I did the Christmas recordings and managed to do all of that thinking, setup and paperwork all by my little lonesome.
"As for me, I make a good living, all music. I don't complain. No, I don't have a yacht. Don't want one. Too Robin Leach for me. I'm sure the sales from that one record didn't buy all that either. Not getting the whole truth here."
Actually, it did pay for that. In fact, you can do the math and see it bought a lot more then that! I like my boat - it has let me shmooze a lot more people and get a lot more work.... i actually have a new one now, its been a long time since then.
"It's nice to know that old money and people who haven't been in the industry for 20 years love us enough to blast us on CL. Any other working musicians, or producers that believe in paying a fair wage want to weigh in? Or hell, how about someone who recorded and album in the last 5 years in their garage with no budget and low paid musicians who turned that into a success. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe awesome musicians like to work for pizza money."
Musicians that are good will rise to the top. Musicians that can play a little should get whatever the market will bare on that day. You don't have a right to make a living at something you are not any good at. Maybe all you are worth is a pizza job, I don't know. I do know your attitude is defeated before you start. I do know that people like you make the music economy weak. You'd rather work for $100 now rather then 10,000 later. As I recall, everyone that I have ever worked with that was any good at all and worked like I do is now living a really great life. You might not like yachts but I'm sure a trip wouldn't piss you off. I paid my guys well and took them all to the south pacific on a killer 2 month surfing trip as a bonus. Say what you will but I don't work with union. I avoid union. I think union players all sound the same - boring as hell. The young guys with talent and fire that are willing to work for free are the ones I hire. When they just have to play my track I let them and often for gas money. When the track comes out killer, I pay them 10 times or more up front for the track. They aren't expecting me to and if they suck I don't - but when I do they sure are happy they met me.
There are a load of guys like me, sick of the crappy players called union and we pay well for good tracks. Funny thing is I NEVER tell anyone that I will pay them anything. I like fresh, true love for music. I learned this trick years ago when I did a track for a producer named Gat. He hired me for a track on a song I thought was smokin' and I didn't know who he was. When I found out it was a patty labelle tune and I was getting paid $500 for my 3 hours I decided to be really loyal to the man. I also learned that pure talent shines without Al Capone doing my collections and taking a cut.
As for me, I make a good living, all music. I don't complain. No, I don't have a yacht. Don't want one. Too Robin Leach for me. I'm sure the sales from that one record didn't buy all that either. Not getting the whole truth here.
Ask yourself if we were just a bunch of talent that happened to be in one remote place or if we just worked hard, avoided selling out and wrote tunes people liked.
Its a crying shame we didn't join a union and get big enough to be able to rent a small home in Nashville and play the dive row for $30 a night.... Damn I wish I joined that union!
MAY 2008
DJS Productions in Las Vegas, Nevada is looking for an investment partner to release and distribute, "Better Be Home Soon", a brand new CD by New Country artist Dan Stewart. If youv'e ever thought about getting into the music business, this might be an interesting opportunity. We have plans to land a song on the National records charts this year. More than a few candidates. Currently doing Demos in Las Vegas, Los Angeles, and Nashville. In the process of recording the best, new, original, Country songs, that we can get our hands on. ...pretty amazed at what were coming up with. If you've got a great, new, original song, email it to us at djsproductions@yahoo.com ...Always on the lookout for great new songs to record. (Cover songs were recorded for casino booking purposes only
APRIL 20, 2008
Dan Stewart Productions is proud to announce that 6 songs, "Better Be Home Soon", "Three Wooden Crosses", "Just Call Me Lonesome","Man In Love", "The Day I Stop Lovin' You", and "Desperado" - by New Country Artist Dan Stewart just went on Clearchannels KWNR 95.5 FM Country Music Radio site in Las Vegas ..
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"Three Wooden Crosses", and an original song, "A Man In Love",
is in rotation on 5 radio stations across the country, and being very well received. Also in rotation on approximately 35 radio stations on live365.com, is "Three Wooden Crosses", "Best Supporting Actress", and "Better Be Home Soon, the featured song on the new CD. Alot of work currently being done to release and promote"Better Be Home Soon" to 400 websites worldwide.
(Country/Rock/Pop) - (Opening Act, Casinos, Private Parties, Demos, Weddings, or Corporate Events) Acting: (Commercials, Movies, TV, Voiceovers) * Was an actor in Los Angeles in the early nineties. Appeared on "Days of Our Lives", "General Hospital", and a variety of of other television shows, movies, and commercials. Was also a disc jockey in Nashville, on a national country music station, "The Interstate Radio Network."
Dan Stewart, once the best kept secret in country music; is about to blow his cover with the release of his new album “BETTER BE HOME SOON”. He left country music’s Mecca, Nashville, for the glitter of Las Vegas. While in Nashville he recorded demos for several of the industry’s top music companies and then decided to strike out on his own. Many of his songs have hit the airwaves on country radio: on mega-station KZLA in Los Angeles and the Interstate Radio Network out of Nashville. .
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" I have a couple of Dan Stewart tracks in my library, and one on the active playlist. He's definately one of the best new traditional artists around".
Overall Rating :5 Stars!
You do such an awesome job with this classic song "Desperado". Always a pleasure spinnin' on my show and it's up now until next friday.
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January 2005 Las Vegas, NV
On January 24th , I played the 2 hour pre-party for George Strait's concert, held by Clearchannels KWNR radio at The House of Blues at The Mandalay Bay Hotel in Las Vegas. Had a great time and got a great response.
Been Featured in The Tennessean Newspaper (Nashville)
Reviewed in The Music Connection Magazine (Los Angeles)
I never said anything about anyone getting screwed. I never said anything about hiring anyone other then a few high school kids. I never said EVER SAID that I didn't pay people..... YOU with your low life cornbread, redneck, uneducated follow the leader brain just assumed that I was ripping people off because you can't see past the end of your nose. That is why I have multiple homes, a yacht, a wife that doesn't work, kids that are great and all the other great things in life and I'd bet dollars for dimes that you don't have any of it. Don't feel you have to answer anything - that is not why I'm ripping you another a-hole. I'm doing it for your own good and perhaps for someone else that might read this and buy into your self pity BS.
Go and $#%@$T%^ all you want it isn't going to help you. You want steady work playing for the polyester crowd? MOVE TO BRANSON. There are over 2000 shows going on there at any given time, and LOTS of work for old crinkled people who can barely sing or play anymore.
Basically, I am against unions. I pay what the project will pay and if you don't want the job you don't have to take it. If you are going to mandate how much someone has to get paid you will suck the life out of start up music.
The clown saying that no album ever sold more then 100,000 copies without being union is a total fool!
I recorded 2 christmas CD's with highs school kids 22 years ago that sold 500,000 copies in the first 3 years.
It always makes me laugh when scared little wimps try to protect their failing talent with a union. If you are good enough to make the money you will. If you aren't you won't. If the money is there ask for it. If you don't want the money because its not enough then don't take the job.
Unions are for LOSERS! THEIR TIME HAS LONG PAST AND NEVER HAD A PLACE IN THE ARTS!
I've made an excellent living from music my entire 45 years and have NEVER been in a union. I also happen to know that I make a better living then just about EVERY union member out there!
1) I’ll need a real basic resume (nothing like a job interview, just a little about you and what you play).
2) I need a sample of your playing. I could care less about the recording quality – that is my job. I do need to hear what you play like.
3) I need to know your rates. I have various configurations of work coming trough from a one off demo to a bunch of demos to a self-release CD and even commercials and soundtracks. Give me a good idea of what you charge. ALL of the work I do is 100% owned by the client and there are no residual payments.
4) A picture if you have it – I remember faces the best so if I hear your work and see your face I’m more likely to remember you…… its only for me, not the client.
5) Please don’t forget contact information. – You’d be surprised!
Send this stuff to the email link that craigslist provides. You probably won’t hear from me until I have a project for you but I will know you’re there and to call you for the right job.
It's not as much about you're AGE, we used that to punctuate a point, but yes, unfortunately, most middle aged musicians from the glory days can't face that it's over by today's standards. Most of you also haven't kept yourselves up health wise either, so your not strong enough to hire to go on the road. The stress of what "the spoiled brats of today" have to face is to much for you compared to the glory days of three busses and three trucks just for a typical Road band doing Top 40 Country. Those days are GONE .
The older generation had it EASY compared to what young people face today in the music business, not the other way around.
100-200 dollars A DAY would be making an excellent living by music industry standards today. We're very glad all of you got to live the glory days of the Row and earn upwards of 100k a year doing demos and sessions, but those days are OVER. Many established artists don't make near that a year, and they are at opening act concert level.
How you can have such a crappy attitude about a bunch of "Kids" that simply don't have that kind of money? Sounds to us like you're the ones who are spoiled.
And all that crap about "if it wasn't for us were would you be" etc , it's the same lame "when I was a boy I had to climb uphill to the Row both ways" BS arguments. PIMPS use that same logic to placate the people they USE to better themselves and ONLY themselves. If it was up to you it would be 1979, 1984, 1990 again and you'd be doing 200 an hour crack whores and massive amounts of cocaine in those "Union" sessions like you used to.
And forget the lame "I have a family to feed" excuse. It was your own personal choice to have kids while being a musician. Nobody owes you for your personal choices dude. Who were those three kids you had supposed to grow up to be, 200 dollar an hour session dudes times 3? So you expect them to all work at Union scale now, AND yourself? Get real.
The fact of the matter is that no matter who you are or how good there is somebody 16, 18, 20 years old that's better willing to do it for almost nothing.
And "Dog walkers" typically get10-25 dollars a walk. Nowhere near what you're demanding to scratch on that guitar per hour.
Location: Stewart's Ferry Area near Percy Priest Lake
I am classically trained, I have a Master's in Music (Violin).
Looking to take any students any age and any skill level for private studio studies here at Stewart's Ferry.
Could it have to do with the fact that the "old-ass, outdated" people you criticize worked their tails off to get where they are, and only want to be compensated somewhat fairly (the key word being somewhat) for all of their hard work, whereas nowadays, some lazy non-musician who learns a few tricks with computer software thinks they are now a recording artist?
4 hr block of Rehearsal space w/engineer is only $100; includes 1 hr of FOH video shot with an XL-1.You can have it on mini DV or DVD. Edit yourself, or we'll edit & upload- $25/hr. Looks great on YouTube. Shoot performance , interview , or goof around footage. Shoot a half hour of music, rest interview- whatever you want.
Great 16ch LR mix to tape, plus 16 ch to HD, in case you need post production. House kit miked & ready to go. 40x80 room -Great vibe- Stage w/PA & lights,kitchen, bathroom, wi-fi.
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I'm sorry but only a top of the line, name guitarist is worth 100 bucks an hour, and most people don't need or want "top of the line" anymore, they want a unique and heartfelt sound. We're not paying some middle aged windbag 100 bucks an hour, we just ain't doin' it.
Smell the downloads or move to Branson. Branson is the new Old Nashville, Nashville is the New LA circa 1976. And Bitch is the new Black, get used to it. AFOM, Ascap, BMI, Sesac, NSAI, RIAA are all out of step with reality and modern times. Ya'll trying to hold on to your middle aged asses as long as possible, with the end of the tunnel in sight for yo ass.
Lesson plans are customized.
The initial interview: $20.00 non-refundable. NO EXCEPTIONS.
Topics introduced and developed include:
METER
COORDINATION
RUDIMENTS
READING
GENRES
EQUIPMENT
IMPROVISING
TEMPO
VOLUMN
STYLES
SOLOS
PHYSICAL/SPIRITUAL FITNESS
Musical theory (DRUMS) will include:
JAZZ
BLUES
ROOTS ROCK
ROCK
COUNTRY
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At the completion of the 12 lessons, in addition to "TOPICS" and "THEORY",
the student will be able to develope:
TECHNIQUE
PERSONAL DISCILPINE
PRACTICE SHEDULING
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